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    This is a condensed version of my original thread to provide instructional help to would be builders. If you would like to read the complete thread (and keep up with new additions to the boat) please click the link below to the original thread. Its good reading. Also, all of the photos are not posted here, so if you would like to see them all, click my photobucket link.


    Original Thread
    http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=454460

    My Complete Photobucket Album

    http://s645.photobucket.com/albums/u...a_ray_rebuild/

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    Well here we go again. This time, the restoration is not voluntary. Let me bring everyone up to speed.

    In November of 2010 the wife and I started looking for a bigger boat to handle the whole family. We looked at at lease 20 to 30 boats all over a 100 mile radius here in Texas. One night I was searching on the internet and found a gorgeous Sea Ray in South Carolina. I spent alot of time discussing this boat with the owner and exchanging emails and pictures. He had the deck replaced 2 years ago and had it gelcoated to seal it up, and had the exterior gelcoated also. This thing was awesome so we decided to drive out a pick the boat up.

    What I did not know is that the new deck was installed over rotten stringers. When I was cleaning her out after our trip I discovered a soft spot in the far port corner of the deck where previously there were a pack of life jackets were sitting during the lake trial. What had happened is that the rotten stringers we wicking up to the new deck and rotting it out. They did not even seal it with resin or fiberglass and used sheetrock screws to hold it down.

    So anyway I paid for a lake ready boat, not a boat that needed $3000 worth of work. Now I must restore it just to be able to recoup some of my investment. I will make it better than new, and hopefully enjoy it for years.

    I have to say I am scared to death.


    So here are my objectives.

    1. Replace all wood that is in the boat.
    2. When replacing the deck I want to somehow slant it toward the middle to shed water toward the bilge.
    3. All carpet will be gone. It just holds moisture.
    4. I would like to gel coat the deck this time, and in white
    5. Come up with a drain system for the deck.

    I am sure there is more


    I will keep you guys updated with pictures and video as I go along just like I did with the Glastron.

    Well here she is


    Sure looks pretty on the outside




    This is what I felt when I stepped on the deck once we got back. It was below freezing when we bought the boat, and the deck was frozen


    This was after I started cutting. Nothing but rot.




    Last edited by friscoboater; November 9th, 2011, 09:02 PM.
    1986 Carlson CVX-18 Restoration

    1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration (SPLASHED!!!)

    1981 Glastron SX-190 Rotten Transom Replacement and Re-power! (Splashed and SOLD)

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    Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

    Here is the first of what will be many videos for this resto.



    Last edited by friscoboater; August 25th, 2011, 01:20 PM.
    1986 Carlson CVX-18 Restoration

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    1981 Glastron SX-190 Rotten Transom Replacement and Re-power! (Splashed and SOLD)

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    • #3
      Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

      Well I am done for the day. The temperature was dropping fast and I was soaked due to all the foam being water logged. Not a good feeling. I got alot of foam out today, but still have so much to go.

      Anyone that has a boat with this type of construction needs to be vigilant about water intrusion.

      Here are some pictures of todays work. the video will be up shortly.

      Port side kick plate. It had about a half inch of glass mat and resin on it for strength.


      Water under the foam everywhere







      Last edited by friscoboater; August 25th, 2011, 01:22 PM.
      1986 Carlson CVX-18 Restoration

      1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration (SPLASHED!!!)

      1981 Glastron SX-190 Rotten Transom Replacement and Re-power! (Splashed and SOLD)

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      • #4
        Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

        I have been thinking alot about how to totally seal under everything. The smallest crack will let water in and boom you have the potential for freeze damage and rot. When I rebuilt our shower a few years back, I used a product called red guard. It is a solid but flexible shield you roll or spray on, and will keep any water out. What i thought about doing is once all the stringers are in and covered with glass, I slather this stuff on, and then foam it. Foam is actually used for structure in these boats, as well as sound deadening. I believe if the boat is built right you should be able to have foam in there, and not worry about rot.

        Here is this weekends video

        Last edited by friscoboater; August 25th, 2011, 01:34 PM.
        1986 Carlson CVX-18 Restoration

        1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration (SPLASHED!!!)

        1981 Glastron SX-190 Rotten Transom Replacement and Re-power! (Splashed and SOLD)

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        • #5
          Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

          Not a whole lot to report. I got a couple of hours today on deconstruction and got a ton of foam out. I found this cool tool at lowes called a mini tiller that made foam removal a breeze. Best 13 bucks I have ever spent.

          Here is that nifty tool I found.

          Last edited by friscoboater; November 9th, 2011, 06:20 PM.
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          1981 Glastron SX-190 Rotten Transom Replacement and Re-power! (Splashed and SOLD)

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          • #6
            Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

            I took core samples on the mounts and they are shot, and that is why I think the gimble bearing is making so much noise. The engine has settled a bit putting the output shaft in a bind.

            It was really pretty today so I decided to run the engine one more time before taking it out just to make sure everything is ok. She fired off like a champ, and I checked everywhere for leaks and the oil once more time. I did do all this when we were looking at the boat, but I just wanted to make sure. Heck, I missed the rotten deck. She does burn a little oil right at startup, but after a few seconds it goes away. This is probably worn valve guides, and that will have to wait for next season. I will just have to check the oil more often to see how much she eats up. What I will do for this season is put the high mileage oil in it to help stop some of the oil consumption. I ran it through all the tests and everything is acceptable.

            Here is a little video

            Last edited by friscoboater; August 25th, 2011, 01:37 PM.
            1986 Carlson CVX-18 Restoration

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            1981 Glastron SX-190 Rotten Transom Replacement and Re-power! (Splashed and SOLD)

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            • #7
              Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

              Well it looks like today will be the only day I can work on the boat this weekend. We are expecting a bunch (for Dallas) of snow tomorrow. I just finished putting the large cover over the boat so no water or snow will get in.

              I got alot of work done, including ripping one of my finger nails back. That was some of the worst pain I have felt in a long time. I am up to the bow, and work has really slowed, as I have to make sure that I do not cut through the hull. I have to say that Sea Ray must have been high when they built these boats. Rot will happen no matter what you do with these things. I found where most of the water got in on the Starboard side, as the fuel vent hose comes through the deck by the seat and there was a tons of water there. I have an idea on how to fix that mess. I figure I have a few more hard days gutting this thing before I get to start grinding. Yipppeeeeee!!!!

              Here are some pictures of the work so far. If this is boring to you guys let me know. I feel this is getting redundant. Saw, rip out, take picture, saw rip out take picture. I like posting progress.










              Last edited by friscoboater; November 9th, 2011, 06:22 PM.
              1986 Carlson CVX-18 Restoration

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              1981 Glastron SX-190 Rotten Transom Replacement and Re-power! (Splashed and SOLD)

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              • #8
                Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

                I have decided to use Polyester Resin for this build, as it is what the builder used when it was new, and if you prep things right, it will last.

                Here is the plan

                1. All the wood will get a light layer if CSM and resin for water proofing since resin alone is not penetrate well, and is brittle. It will eventually crack and let water in.
                2. I will tab in the stingers with one or two layers of CSM and then follow with two layers if 1708 in two different widths.
                3. I will then cap the stringers with 1708.


                Anyway, here is the video from the weekend.

                Last edited by friscoboater; November 9th, 2011, 06:24 PM.
                1986 Carlson CVX-18 Restoration

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                1981 Glastron SX-190 Rotten Transom Replacement and Re-power! (Splashed and SOLD)

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                • #9
                  Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

                  Well... The motor is out. The weather here was perfect today, and I got up at the crack of dawn and went to Grapevine and picked up a HUGE cherry picker. Clockwatcher told me about Fox Rentals, and how they had the model I needed. Get this... $25.00 for the day. SAWEEEET!!! Anyway my Father in law came over and we had it out of the boat and bolted to the cradle in less than an hour. We also used the hoist to get the gas tank out. I now have enough gas to mow my yard for three years.

                  Anyway, after I got the engine out I had a chance to really inspect the engine mounts and transom, and the news it not good. It looks like both mounts and at least the bottom 1/4 of the transom will have to some out. So tomorrow I will try to get the gimble housing off so I can start tearing into it. One really interesting thing I noticed is that the Transom does not go all the way to the hull at the bottom. It actually stops about 2" up. Kinda weird.


                  So here are the pictures of the carnage... and a little video.

                  Still had more to go on the lift and had plenty of room


                  My Father in law




                  Weird Bolts


                  YUCK!!


                  More Rot
                  Last edited by friscoboater; August 25th, 2011, 01:41 PM.
                  1986 Carlson CVX-18 Restoration

                  1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration (SPLASHED!!!)

                  1981 Glastron SX-190 Rotten Transom Replacement and Re-power! (Splashed and SOLD)

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                  • #10
                    Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

                    These things are really light one you get the gas out of them


                    I was hearing a pinging noise when the engine was running, and I thought I had a problem. It turned out to be the flappers.


                    My god I have alot of work to do.



                    This is my little man playing with the dremel tool in the back. It kept him entertained for at least 2 hours.


                    And here is the video tour

                    1986 Carlson CVX-18 Restoration

                    1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration (SPLASHED!!!)

                    1981 Glastron SX-190 Rotten Transom Replacement and Re-power! (Splashed and SOLD)

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                    • #11
                      Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

                      Well another day of hard work is in the books. I got the gimbal (can someone confirm spelling of that?) Housing out and cleaned all the grease and grime out of the aft section of the boat. I did not want to be cutting and grinding in gear oil and power steering fluid.

                      After I got the housing out I had a better look at the transom. From what I can tell the rot only goes about an inch into the starboard side towards the bottom and the same on the very bottom.

                      I also noticed that the trim pump is full of milk. I guess that means new cylinders for me.

                      It was really nice to get everything out of the way, and I feel like I am really making headway on this project. Unfortunately mother nature is not going to be very nice for a while. Starting Tuesday we are not supposed to get above freezing until Saturday. In that time frame we are supposed to get an "ice event" in the early part of the week, and "significant snowfall" towards the end. That is just great. It was 75 yesterday and 69 today.

                      Anyway, that is it for now. Here are some pictures, and a ton of video.

                      Nice little burn mark on the trim hose



                      Gimbal off without indecent. Can someone point me in the direction on how to completely take one of these apart. I need to repaint the whole thing.



                      All clean



                      Gas Tank area



                      Here is the rot I was talking about. The left side is the worst. There is more in the video. (It is wet because I just washed the area)



                      Everything for the Engine fit perfectly on that pallet

                      Last edited by friscoboater; August 25th, 2011, 01:43 PM.
                      1986 Carlson CVX-18 Restoration

                      1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration (SPLASHED!!!)

                      1981 Glastron SX-190 Rotten Transom Replacement and Re-power! (Splashed and SOLD)

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                      • #12
                        Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

                        Last but not least, the video.





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                        • #13
                          Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

                          I finally got some work done today. I have really been putting off the really hardcore cutting of the stringer in fear of piercing the hull. Well, I put on my big boy pants on today and started cutting after I finished getting the rest of the deck up around the stern. Went smoother than I thought, and I hope to get much more done tomorrow. I cant get a whole lot done until the after noon. At night it gets down in the 20s and the water logged wood freezes and it is like working on a frozen turkey.





                          Look at all that rot!



                          The entire bilge is lines with the 24oz roving

                          Last edited by friscoboater; August 25th, 2011, 01:46 PM.
                          1986 Carlson CVX-18 Restoration

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                          • #14
                            Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

                            WOW... I got a ton done today. The boat is about 90% gutted. I just started cutting and cutting, and now all the stringers are gone. Check out the progress pictures.
                            I have about 3 hours left in real demo, and then I get to start grinding. Yipee!!!!!!

                            Beginning of the Day



                            Ski Locker bulkhead



                            Killing my back



                            Starboard side motor mount



                            More of the motor mount


                            Port Side motor mount

                            Last edited by friscoboater; August 25th, 2011, 01:48 PM.
                            1986 Carlson CVX-18 Restoration

                            1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration (SPLASHED!!!)

                            1981 Glastron SX-190 Rotten Transom Replacement and Re-power! (Splashed and SOLD)

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                              Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

                              Pile O Junk



                              Looking forward



                              I cut out the rotten part of the bow boxes. I am trying not to have to remove it all.





                              No more rotten stringers



                              1986 Carlson CVX-18 Restoration

                              1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration (SPLASHED!!!)

                              1981 Glastron SX-190 Rotten Transom Replacement and Re-power! (Splashed and SOLD)

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