Re: 93 Crownline 250 advice/opinions on repair costs (diy)
Re: 93 Crownline 250 advice/opinions on repair costs (diy)
...On the plus side, it does have a better to service drive line...Seems to have been kept under cover, which is a huge plus...
Yes, and yes, marina just unwrapped it a few days ago and put canvas back up.
On the negative, the blown out bulkheads and possibly non-functioning drive line, and the busted loose stringer, plus whatever else you may find after you start digging into it...
Until proven otherwise, I would remain highly suspicious of the motor mounts, stringers they are next too and the transom...
BTW, did you notice if the bilge drain plug was left in or out? If, of course it has one...
From this distance and from what you have described and shown so far, I definitely think you are starting out with a much better candidate to refurbish...
Thousand bucks sounds about right for materials to repair all of what you have shown and maybe most of what has yet to be discovered...structurally...
I personally don't care for the good looking wood that seems to have nothing covering it, but I suppose if it stays dry and looks that good, some tabbing should make it totally sound...
Timelines I tend to stay away from...
IMHO, if you can score this boat for 500 bucks, and end up putting as much as 5-7 grand into it, or less of course
, for a complete refurbish including most everything it needs to get it sea worthy, then I see it as a good investment in personal enjoyment use...
Obviously if a flip is in its future, the actual costs might get recouped, but your free labor, prolly not...
Done any shopping for a trailer?
What does one that can handle this puppy go for? Plus the rehab costs?
Looking forward to the 'rest of the story'.
Well the thing I"m thinking with it is that I don't/wont need to do everything at once.. the cosmetics like the cabin and seating are serviceable for a season, and I'll have next winter to deal with them. Mechanical and structure issues would be the 'need done' for this season. A somewhat decent trailer that will hold the boat could be had for about $1500 around here, from what I'm seeing... but I'm not going to worry about a trailer yet..
Well, that did not take long . . .
My guess, considering a remanufactured engine and lots of structural repair, along with new upholstery. Mostly DIY
6 months
Engine and manifolds $4-5k. 454's are pricey....
Well doing some looking, ya, the gasket kit and new bearings/cam/lifters will run me about $2200, plus I'd have to find a good block, get it checked, bored .030" over likely, and buy new pistons to suit. I'd be $3000+ anyway. I may have a solution for that however, for half the price.. more on that in a sec..
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structural repair materials $1-2k
upholstery materials $1k
misc stuff $1k
total = $7-9k usd
that bulkhead tells me that the hull wanted to fold up and over stressed the bulkhead. Probably because the other structural components have detached from the hull.
this boat should be close to free in terms of a purchase price.
I already have about $300 worth of glassing supplies, that I didn't end up using on the big dirty, so they would go towards this boat.. a few more pieces of ply/wood and some fiberglass mating.. cant see it getting much over $1500 tho.. and with decent weather coming, I think I could get a fair amount done in a short time.. I'm single remember :laugh:
Like I said, lots of misc stuff will pop up im sure, but some could no doubt wait till shes in, or even till next winter. As for price... :lol: heh heh.. weeeell... Upon discovering the manifolds, I stopped looking to much further into it, told the marina staff, and left it to see what will happen. My friend that put me onto this boat in the first place, as he knows the guy that runs the place quite well, made a phone call today; (I showed him all the pics) The guy said something to the effect of; "oh...uh... crap... well, ya, not that I don't trust you and your buddy, but I gota get one of our tech guys to look at it monday... if its all junk, it's really kinda worthless... dang... I'll let you know."
Boils down to the fact that this boat is now pretty much scrap, as far as the marina is considering it anyway. So I may be able to grab it, for the cost of hauling it out of there, about $200
Now the engine 'option' I have... My friend (same guy found out about this boat for me) has offered me a deal; He has a complete 0 hour, fresh built, 350 mrecruiser, carb to pan including manifolds, sitting in his shop. He built it for another guy, but he's having to move/deal with other things, so may not even have time to put motor in, never mind go boating this season. My friend has a 94 31PC formula with twin 454's, and wants this 'cracked' one for spare parts to have on hand. His deal is he helps me pull and drop motors, I give him $1500 and the old 454. I think its reasonable, and I know he has at least $1800 into the rebuilt 350. A lot of these Crownlines came factory with a SB 350, and still cruise 25-30mph. Change bell-housing and it will literally drop right in, plug and play. Also makes the gimble/drive repair easier with the motor out of the way (and it would have to come out regardless, to repair bulkhead/check mounts and stringers) so here's my quick rundown, off the hop this season, I'd be spending;
$200 - haul boat home
$100 - repair gimble (have a plan for that, I'll explain further if this all happens)
$1500- 'new' 350 SB motor
$1000- My 'guess' for materials required to repair stringers/bulkhead
And for that, my time estimate would be 4-6 weeks, give or take.. Still WAY better odds of getting out this season than I could have hoped for with the bayliner, and if it doesn't happen, so be it... definitely wasnt gona happen with the big dirty anyway
