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67 Carlson V-Drive Race boat restoration

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  • 67 Carlson V-Drive Race boat restoration

    Well a new boat is coming to the stable being delivered today.

    It's a 67 Calson (prior to joining with Glastron) 18 foot V-Drive race boat. It was raced only. The build paperwork from 67 is coming with it. It originally had a Chrysler 426 max wedge installed in it. The cost on it back then was $7500. It is in good shape for all these years. I will need to go through the drive and repack the shaft seals. The seats need recovered and will need to go through the wiring. It is sans motor but I have one that should work for the meanwhile. Just need to make sure the gearing and prop work for it.

    Here are a few pictures











    Information on the boat from 67
    Chris

    74 Chrysler Conqueror SIII Superbee 340 Jet (getting Magnum360)
    http://s1236.photobucket.com/albums/...slerConqueror/

    My thread on the resto
    http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=524432

    67 Carlson Ex Circle Track Vdrive Big Block Mopar power
    http://forums.iboats.com/boat-restor...on-610004.html

    Previously owned
    73 Galaxie Trihull with 105HP Chrysler OB

    Mopar or nocar ( make that Boat)


  • #2
    Re: 67 Carlson V-Drive Race boat restoration

    A couple from last night when it was picked up. It is headed this way today I will get to see it tonight.


    Chris

    74 Chrysler Conqueror SIII Superbee 340 Jet (getting Magnum360)
    http://s1236.photobucket.com/albums/...slerConqueror/

    My thread on the resto
    http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=524432

    67 Carlson Ex Circle Track Vdrive Big Block Mopar power
    http://forums.iboats.com/boat-restor...on-610004.html

    Previously owned
    73 Galaxie Trihull with 105HP Chrysler OB

    Mopar or nocar ( make that Boat)

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    • #3
      Re: 67 Carlson V-Drive Race boat restoration

      Cool boat!!! Looks fast just sitting there.
      If Momma isn't happy no one is happy! If Gramma isn't happy RUN!!!!!!

      Aerocraft York deck stringers transom
      http://forums.iboats.com/boat-restor...deck-580798.ml

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      • #4
        Re: 67 Carlson V-Drive Race boat restoration

        Yes it does and in its day was pretty fast top of its class
        Chris

        74 Chrysler Conqueror SIII Superbee 340 Jet (getting Magnum360)
        http://s1236.photobucket.com/albums/...slerConqueror/

        My thread on the resto
        http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=524432

        67 Carlson Ex Circle Track Vdrive Big Block Mopar power
        http://forums.iboats.com/boat-restor...on-610004.html

        Previously owned
        73 Galaxie Trihull with 105HP Chrysler OB

        Mopar or nocar ( make that Boat)

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        • #5
          Re: 67 Carlson V-Drive Race boat restoration

          Nice find 73! Cant wait to see how this beast comes out. You gotta find a way to reproduce those period graphics too.
          Give me a picture and a thousand words!


          2004 Scout Dorado 175 Dual Console
          Yamaha 90 4-Stroke

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          • #6
            Re: 67 Carlson V-Drive Race boat restoration

            I had a friend with a Rayson Craft from that era with a 427 Chevy engine. It was good for 100 mph--pulling him on a speed ski. His father died behind that boat in a fall at high speed.

            The V drives were maybe 40 miles per hour faster than the same hulls and engines with the Berkley or Jacuzzi jet drives.

            Just promise that you'll recondition this boat with all the originally lettering, etc. It deserves such treatment.

            426 wedge Mopar engines are extremely rare. But it'd be a great boat with a relatively easily found 440 cubic inch engine. It'd also be very good with a high reving 360 engine. I'm glad you have Mopar experience.

            Good luck with your project.

            You should check out the stringers in this boat to make sure everything's 100% good.

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            • #7
              Re: 67 Carlson V-Drive Race boat restoration

              I have a lot more pics to post now that it is at my place. The stringers are all good. The original floor is undamaged and intact including the factory gel webbing. The only thing molested from teh interior was the passenger seat was cut from the boat and made to bolt in as a removable option for racing. I am unsure if I will fiberglass it back in or leave it as a removable to preserve the racing heritage of the boat.

              The original paint was a bright red with tons of metal flake. The metal Flake has survived the years but as we all know red hardly ever does. So what does everyone think should I repaint the boat with red and heavy metal flake and have to hand paint the originally hand painted graphics back on it, repaint and tape off the original graphics, or just clear coat over everything as is and leave it in its pure original petina?? Please give me your opinions.

              Here are some pics of her






              Also if anyone recognizes any of these stickers I want to replace the ones that are missing.
              Chris

              74 Chrysler Conqueror SIII Superbee 340 Jet (getting Magnum360)
              http://s1236.photobucket.com/albums/...slerConqueror/

              My thread on the resto
              http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=524432

              67 Carlson Ex Circle Track Vdrive Big Block Mopar power
              http://forums.iboats.com/boat-restor...on-610004.html

              Previously owned
              73 Galaxie Trihull with 105HP Chrysler OB

              Mopar or nocar ( make that Boat)

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              • #8
                Re: 67 Carlson V-Drive Race boat restoration

                here are some more shots of the boat










                Chris

                74 Chrysler Conqueror SIII Superbee 340 Jet (getting Magnum360)
                http://s1236.photobucket.com/albums/...slerConqueror/

                My thread on the resto
                http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=524432

                67 Carlson Ex Circle Track Vdrive Big Block Mopar power
                http://forums.iboats.com/boat-restor...on-610004.html

                Previously owned
                73 Galaxie Trihull with 105HP Chrysler OB

                Mopar or nocar ( make that Boat)

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                • #9
                  Re: 67 Carlson V-Drive Race boat restoration

                  And some more











                  Chris

                  74 Chrysler Conqueror SIII Superbee 340 Jet (getting Magnum360)
                  http://s1236.photobucket.com/albums/...slerConqueror/

                  My thread on the resto
                  http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=524432

                  67 Carlson Ex Circle Track Vdrive Big Block Mopar power
                  http://forums.iboats.com/boat-restor...on-610004.html

                  Previously owned
                  73 Galaxie Trihull with 105HP Chrysler OB

                  Mopar or nocar ( make that Boat)

                  Comment



                  • #10
                    Re: 67 Carlson V-Drive Race boat restoration

                    Originally posted by Bamaman1 View Post
                    I had a friend with a Rayson Craft from that era with a 427 Chevy engine. It was good for 100 mph--pulling him on a speed ski. His father died behind that boat in a fall at high speed.

                    The V drives were maybe 40 miles per hour faster than the same hulls and engines with the Berkley or Jacuzzi jet drives.

                    Just promise that you'll recondition this boat with all the originally lettering, etc. It deserves such treatment.

                    426 wedge Mopar engines are extremely rare. But it'd be a great boat with a relatively easily found 440 cubic inch engine. It'd also be very good with a high reving 360 engine. I'm glad you have Mopar experience.

                    Good luck with your project.

                    You should check out the stringers in this boat to make sure everything's 100% good.
                    A 440 is not out of the question but I have a 500hp 383 I built that is going in it right now. I have a 451 stroker build that will probably be the next motor to go in it in the winter.
                    Chris

                    74 Chrysler Conqueror SIII Superbee 340 Jet (getting Magnum360)
                    http://s1236.photobucket.com/albums/...slerConqueror/

                    My thread on the resto
                    http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=524432

                    67 Carlson Ex Circle Track Vdrive Big Block Mopar power
                    http://forums.iboats.com/boat-restor...on-610004.html

                    Previously owned
                    73 Galaxie Trihull with 105HP Chrysler OB

                    Mopar or nocar ( make that Boat)

                    Comment



                    • #11
                      Re: 67 Carlson V-Drive Race boat restoration

                      Glad to see someone finally trying to do something with this one. Good luck with the project Chris. That is certainly a cool old boat. Personally I would focus on preservation and getting it back in the water first. Ultimately I would do a complete restoration including re gel (Not paint) in original colors and have someone hand paint the original graphics. I am curious to hear what JJ has to say about the drive box. And take tons and tons of pictures. Keep that existing string of documentation going.
                      1989 21' Eliminator Daytona - Indmar 454

                      1974 Sleek Craft Rebel - Pontiac 400

                      1976 Sleek Craft Ambassador

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                      • #12
                        Re: 67 Carlson V-Drive Race boat restoration

                        Cool project. Good luck!
                        1981 Baja 15SS_1983 Johnson 140_62.9 mph
                        1981 Glastron/Carlson C500 metric series_Modified 1978 Evinrude 140_Project
                        1971 Glastron V153_1986 Evinrude 90_54.8 mph_Rebuilt then unceremoniously wrecked
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                        • #13
                          Re: 67 Carlson V-Drive Race boat restoration

                          Originally posted by Last Mohican View Post
                          Glad to see someone finally trying to do something with this one. Good luck with the project Chris. That is certainly a cool old boat. Personally I would focus on preservation and getting it back in the water first. Ultimately I would do a complete restoration including re gel (Not paint) in original colors and have someone hand paint the original graphics. I am curious to hear what JJ has to say about the drive box. And take tons and tons of pictures. Keep that existing string of documentation going.
                          Thanks Matt Yeah I am leaning mostly to just clear coating it and going that route. I may have to just make me a copy of it and do it in the original colors with updated hardware just to see it and be able to have something to run. The originality of this old gal is really appealing.

                          Finding original type hardware for it might prove quite difficult hopefully I will get some help inn finding what I need. This v-drive doesn't have pedals for the cav plate it has a hand lever between the seats.
                          Chris

                          74 Chrysler Conqueror SIII Superbee 340 Jet (getting Magnum360)
                          http://s1236.photobucket.com/albums/...slerConqueror/

                          My thread on the resto
                          http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=524432

                          67 Carlson Ex Circle Track Vdrive Big Block Mopar power
                          http://forums.iboats.com/boat-restor...on-610004.html

                          Previously owned
                          73 Galaxie Trihull with 105HP Chrysler OB

                          Mopar or nocar ( make that Boat)

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                          • #14
                            Re: 67 Carlson V-Drive Race boat restoration

                            Very cool looking race boat...Gonna be beautiful when brought back to its former glory...
                            Me, personally, I would make everything look like it did when it was brand new...
                            I would love to come aboard and watch what happens...

                            Don't know if this is much help, but here's what I could dig up...
                            Website of vintage racing boats, with this particular page mentioning the Orange Bowl Regatta...
                            1967 Orange Bowl Regatta

                            Orange Bowl Regatta, circa late 1960's, Sponsored by PURE OIL company, later known as "Purolater"...
                            Couldn't find any of the original Orange Bowl Regatta/Pure Oil logos...but this one has the "Firebird" on it


                            Kendall GT-1 Motor Oil sticker...Lots of modern versions available, but nothing like the one that looks like it was on the Carlson...






                            Best of luck,
                            GT1M
                            Why a Fiberglass Boat?...Because they are,"The more beautiful, more seaworthy, more elegant, more easier to get chicks in, nicer, more common, more socially accepted, more politically correct boats."Quote by oops!
                            Tight Lines and Float, Float On!
                            Links to everything having to do with this restoration...
                            1988/2014 Glasstream Resto-Mod
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                            • #15
                              Re: 67 Carlson V-Drive Race boat restoration

                              GT thanks for the info by the way this one is not a Cyclone it is a 18' Inboard (no Name) the cyclone had on slight variance in that it had the indentation in the side that and this one is straight. You can see the advertisement in my first post. Btw this thing came with a ton of paperwork most from 67-72 all older than I am, but not by much. There are a few things from 2000 and up but most is from that golden age of speed. When a rebuild of a 426 max wedge including two new pistons and a new crankshaft costed less than $600 and having both carbs rebuilt and detuned for pleasure usage costed only $28.06.

                              GT I looked and that kendal one you have is the one that's on the Carlson.
                              Chris

                              74 Chrysler Conqueror SIII Superbee 340 Jet (getting Magnum360)
                              http://s1236.photobucket.com/albums/...slerConqueror/

                              My thread on the resto
                              http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=524432

                              67 Carlson Ex Circle Track Vdrive Big Block Mopar power
                              http://forums.iboats.com/boat-restor...on-610004.html

                              Previously owned
                              73 Galaxie Trihull with 105HP Chrysler OB

                              Mopar or nocar ( make that Boat)

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