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  • Third time's a charm? 1990 Four Winns 200 Horizon Resto/Refurb

    Well...here goes. Either I have amnesia, am a glutton for punishment, or I have unconsciously started smoking crack. Not sure which it is, but whatever the case, I have a new project boat. Bit-o-history...have car resto experience-o-plenty with everything from old and late model Mustangs, to Hudsons. Have done a little of everything, and can fix most anything (ha! riiiight...) so a few years ago I tried to go the "cheap" way and bought my first project boat. Project boats are NOTHING like project cars, I quickly learned. Project #1 - 1984 19' Invader bowrider with a 5.7 and an OMC Stringer drive, on a crappy tandem axle trailer. Total package cost - $500. I thought I had a bargain. Long story short, rotten to the shell...and a Stringer drive. After 8 months of misery and toil, someone made me a deal I could not refuse on it, and away it went. Project #2 (listed in the Four Winns section) 1998 Four Winns 220 Horizon with a 5.7 Volvo-Penta GSi and Cobra SX. If interested, you can read about it here: http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=442937 .
    Heart-breaking disappointment, and I swore I would never again get a project boat. I would stick to cars or houses as projects, and buy a ready-to-go boat.
    Project #3. Never say never. I accidentally typed in the wrong location while killing time and cruising Craigslist, and my pointer landed exactly on the ad for a 1990 Four Winns 200 Horizon for $1500. Why not look? Look indeed. Within an hour, I had struck a deal with the seller to hold and store the boat for me (for an extra $250) until I could get everything lined up stateside to get it transported 250 miles to my home in Tennessee.
    This is what I got: a one owner 1990 200 Horizon with a 5.8 OMC Cobra, SLX package (tri-color gel coat, depth finder, etc), a beautifully kept interior with only 4 small tears, and no rot of any kind, (bow filler cushions are even still there), solid floors and transom (always kept in stacked dry storage since new), and a fantastic original Four Winns tandem axle trailer with guide on bunks, surge brakes, removable tounge, new tires and bearings with bearing buddies, and very little usage. Doesn't sound like much of a project boat does it? Well...here's the bad: you may notice the thick dark mud on the hull...this boat got caught in the floods in Nashville in 2010, and was swept away and partially submerged. The only thing that kept it from sinking was the fact that it was in fairly shallow water when it came to rest, and got stuck in the mud as the water receded. The stern of the boat had 10-12 inches of water in it, so the engine was flooded. The owners insurance company pulled the heads off of it, saw water in the cylinders, and totaled it out. It has very light oxidation above the rub rail, the teak needs to be refinished, someone swapped out the tach with one from a Sea Ray (why?) and someone stole the faceplate to the crappy Dual Marine stereo (again...why?)

    So, after $250 storage fee, $1500 purchase price, and $350 delivery fee, it sits in my yard now with a nice trailer-able cover on it, waiting for the first week in May, when it goes to the mechanic for a complete sterndrive rebuild, and a bow to stern check up. Wish I was stateside to do it myself...I think I could actually handle this one!
    Here are the pics I have, and I will post more as stuff gets completed. The first four pics are of it at the seller's location, before I bought it.
    Input and criticism is appreciated.


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    Re: Third time's a charm? 1990 Four Winns 200 Horizon Resto/Refurb

    More pics...

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    • #3
      Re: Third time's a charm? 1990 Four Winns 200 Horizon Resto/Refurb

      more pics...

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      • #4
        Re: Third time's a charm? 1990 Four Winns 200 Horizon Resto/Refurb

        pics continued...

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        • #5
          Re: Third time's a charm? 1990 Four Winns 200 Horizon Resto/Refurb

          and still a few more pics...why only 5 at a time?

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            Re: Third time's a charm? 1990 Four Winns 200 Horizon Resto/Refurb

            just a few more...

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            • #7
              Re: Third time's a charm? 1990 Four Winns 200 Horizon Resto/Refurb

              I dunno, it doesn't look like a deal if the motor is shot. Is it?
              The boat looks alright but you know the story, its what you can't see , below deck, that does the damage.

              Funny screen name for a guy over in Iraq,
              its better than "bullet magnet."
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              See FAQ Files.
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              • #8
                Re: Third time's a charm? 1990 Four Winns 200 Horizon Resto/Refurb

                Originally posted by jonesg View Post
                I dunno, it doesn't look like a deal if the motor is shot. Is it?
                The boat looks alright but you know the story, its what you can't see , below deck, that does the damage.

                Funny screen name for a guy over in Iraq,
                its better than "bullet magnet."
                Below deck was checked (as much as it can be) before purchase by a trusted friend, and all seems well. The engine rebuild will not be too expensive at all, and I have another drive located and locked in if needed. Should have around $5k in it if all goes even half way good.

                Yeah, infideltarget started as a joke on my email account. When I first got here almost four years ago, I was in Al Sadr City every night (NOT a good place), and one of the Iraqi Special Forces guys told me "You are Infidel...you are target!" and it stuck.

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                • #9
                  Re: Third time's a charm? 1990 Four Winns 200 Horizon Resto/Refurb

                  Ahh ok, so you're not just buying blind then.
                  In that case yeh, its a good find.
                  I think I'll watch blackhawk down today.
                  Keep your head down.
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWAhV...eature=related
                  sigpic
                  See FAQ Files.
                  http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=299680

                  Get the genuine factory service manual.
                  www.outboardbooks.com
                  www.*****************

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                  • #10
                    Re: Third time's a charm? 1990 Four Winns 200 Horizon Resto/Refurb

                    Nothing new going on yet. Ordering a few parts and whatnot. Waiting on my time slot in May to have it towed to the shop.

                    Happy Birthday to me today! WooHoo! Spending it at work, 8,000 miles from my family and friends! Gotta love it.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Third time's a charm? 1990 Four Winns 200 Horizon Resto/Refurb

                      Happy Birthday and thanks for serving. I like the boat and at least you'll know what you have after fixing it up.

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                      • #12
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ID:	75133I have almost the same boat but 2 years older, 4.3 4bbl carb and sunsport seating. Mine was in worse shape, needed a mostly new interior, stringer and deck repair. Still running the original 23 year old engine and drive. Salt water boat.
                        The red gelcoat is oxidized so bad it almost looks grey. Maybe if I wait long enough, it'll turn white!
                        Last pix is my mooring spot on the north shore of Long Island, view from my back window...

                        I think you'll like running that boat, the hull has a 21* deadrise and it is very stable for a 20'9" hull. The 5.8 V-8 should push it along nicely. Even with the 4.3 it is not slow because of the 4bbl carb. The mechanicals have been very reliable, given the age of it, and salt water use, too bad OMC's not in business any more because the Cobra in my experience was a good drive....
                        1988 Four Winns 200 Horizon
                        4.3 OMC Cobra

                        98 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 Selectrac
                        07 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Quadradrive II

                        "While air doesn't freeze....rust never sleeps"

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                        • #13
                          Re: Third time's a charm? 1990 Four Winns 200 Horizon Resto/Refurb

                          I like that sunsport seating. I would have opted for that if I had the chance. 23 years? Well maintained speaks volumes. And that is one beautiful view! Long Island Sound? Very nice!

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                          • #14
                            Re: Third time's a charm? 1990 Four Winns 200 Horizon Resto/Refurb

                            the water in the foreground is a local bay, that empties out into the Sound which is in the far distance. Conn is about 8.5 miles (Stamford) across....
                            1988 Four Winns 200 Horizon
                            4.3 OMC Cobra

                            98 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 Selectrac
                            07 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Quadradrive II

                            "While air doesn't freeze....rust never sleeps"

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                            • #15
                              Re: Third time's a charm? 1990 Four Winns 200 Horizon Resto/Refurb

                              Happy birthday (late sorry) and thanks for serving. I did my time as well.
                              Blue2Green
                              1989 Four Winns Freedom 190
                              4.3L OMC Cobra

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