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  1. #26
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    Default Re: Drowning doesn't look like Drowning

    Bump. I just got this article sent to me from a colleague...very good information!

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    Default Re: Drowning doesn't look like Drowning

    Guys, I agree with the sticky part of this post. Thats why I posted this same article a little over a month ago. As it was stated in there Ladyfish has a taken care of it already. Go to the safety section and look towards the bottom and while your there go over the rest of her posts, some very good reading.
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    Further we have a local organization dedicated to the cause of teaching black people how to swim. It is a little know fact that African Americans are unable to swim to the extent that other races are for various reasons. The drowing rate amongst blacks is much higher than other races. I had no idea that was the case before I was exposed to the organization.
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    Default Re: Drowning doesn't look like Drowning

    It is posted in the Boating Safety section ^^^^^^^

    Edit: It was the first one in that area and was the impetus for the section, so it is at the bottom . . . This is one of those old threads than can get bumped forever. All good.

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    Default Re: Drowning doesn't look like Drowning

    This needs to be made a sticky in more than the safety forum. I've never even looked in the safety forum, and I would imagine many others haven't either.

    Excellent article.

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    Default Re: Drowning doesn't look like Drowning

    I didnt know there was a safety section...


    Article is spot on though. I almost went to the bottom of the pool at the YMCA as a kid, right in front of the lifeguard. Got tired, was only a few feet from the edge, but I was right in front of a couple of circulation lines from the filtration system. Just couldnt swim against it and started to go down. Didnt make a noise until I started coughing water, then the guard noticed and pulled me out.

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    Default Re: Drowning doesn't look like Drowning

    Great Info! As a former lifeguard, and U.S. Navy Surface Rescue Swimmer, I can tell you, this is valuable information! Great Post!

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    Default Re: Drowning doesn't look like Drowning

    This thread is in a class all by itself and will be treated as no other post before or since. Even though it is in the Safety Forum and is a duplicate here it will be stuck in both places and closed, so that it doesn't get so long that it is overlooked.

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    Default Drowning Doesnt Look Like Drowning....

    I just saw the article "Drowning Doesnt Look Like Drowning" in the safety section of this forum but couldn't post there for some reason.

    I took swim lessons every summer as a kid. And since to me swimming is just natural, as an adult I amazed at the number of people who cant swim. I have rescued 3 people from drowning, one in our backyard pool when i was about 12 years old, one at a party when i was about 22 and one at the lake. None looked like they were drowning at all. As the article says there is no arm flailing and yelling, just a bobbing head and arms and hands coming out of the water. No one else had any idea what was happening either time.

    I think the captain of the boat has a responsibility to know what to look for and how to react in the case of a person drowning and that article does a good job of explaining it. Going a step further is how to rescue a drowning person without them drowning you as well.

    Obviously a flotation device is the best and the person will pretty much instinctively self rescue when you get the flotation device within their reach.. but if there isnt one near, you have to become their flotation device and the first time it happens you'll be surprised at how unaware that person is when they are frantically trying to stay alive. If no flotation is available to you or them and you have to rescue them, the biggest thing you need to do is grab them preferably from the back and wrap your arm around their chest or stomach and keep both of you above water however you can. Keep their arms free so that when they get their bearings back they will be able to help keep the 2 of you above water. The woman I rescued at the party i grabbed onto from the front and she instinctively latched onto me making it more difficult because i was being bogged down and wasnt able to use my own natural boyancy by make us more horizontal in the water. In deep water you'll have to tread water with your legs and one remaining arm which is is twice as hard as treading water by yourself. Calming them down by telling them its ok and that youve got them will make getting to a safe place much easier.

    I just wanted to add this to the forum somewhere.

    My 12 year old daughter has already been through years of swim lessons and my 3 year old boy will be starting his second year of swim lessons this summer.

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    Default Re: Drowning Doesnt Look Like Drowning....

    good info.
    we have a lot of drownings here, where someone is wading and steps into deep water. I cannot understand how they drown when by definition they are one step away from shallow water (no current to speak of). The answer is the panic. the human is about the only animal that will drown right away; animals don't drown unless exhausted or overwhelmed.
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    Default Re: Drowning Doesnt Look Like Drowning....

    Great Post! I am a rescue and recovery diver for one of the largest, and renowned, (woop woop! ) water rescue teams in the country. Unfortunately my experiences are almost exclusively with people that aren't so lucky. One thing that is an undeniable reality is that every single drowning victim that I have recovered except one has been drunk/high when they went in the water. It is really sad to see how many people can be affected by the bad decision of one person. prior to being a PSD (public safety diver) I was a life guard and one of the first things they taught us is never approach a victim that is being aggressive, and even when they are being calm always approach them from behind. We were always told that if they have enough energy to fight you then they aren't ready to be rescued. The important thing to remember in any water rescue situation is the rescuers life is most important. It is really hard to drag someone to safety when you yourself are under water. Keep your head and keep yourself in the position to make the rescue.

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