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    Default New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    20 ft fish and ski.Just curious about how bad 20 mph winds would be on a lake, espessially for a newbe.

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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    Not if you don't mind some spray. Not a comfy ride, though.

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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    Also depends on the lake. A big, wide flatland lake where the waves can build up quite a fetch over a lengthy area can be downright dangerous. Okeechobee, Kentucky lakes are 2 that come to mind. Narrower, deep mountain lakes like a Table Rock in Missouri or Quachita in Arkansas down get quite as bad and certain areas of those lakes protected by mountains or ridges are actually kinda calm.Overall though, I'd plan on doing honey do's on days with wind forecast that bad though.

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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    I boat on Sebago,in Maine.It is a very large and deep lake.The waves can get pretty large.A lot calmer in the shallows or a cove.It depends on the type of lake and how your boats sits in the water also.Kevin

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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    I'd agree with above...depending on the lake, it will be a little rough but your 20'er should handle it. What may be more of a concern is the condition of the dock/launch area in that wind and the direction it is blowing. A strong wind blowing in or across the docks it could be a little nerve racking to dock and retrieve the boat.

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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    Just curious about how bad 20 mph winds would be on a lake, espessially for a newbe.
    Not a good idea. Get some experience with better weather first, then you can decide what you are comfortable with. I stay home if the winds are that strong. I could probably go out but it wouldn't be enjoyable.
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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    I would not consider 20 mph winds an issue for most boats - over open water where there is some fetch, you're probably not going to get a lot less than that anyway, particualry in the afternoons.

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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    About 3/4 downwind from the shoreline in a 20 mph wind you'll be in 3ft or higher waves - it's murder to go upwind in a tri-hull in those conditions. If you're at a really big lake where the wind has 2 or 4 or 12 miles to get some momentum up, it can get really nasty at 20mph or more wind. But the lee shores & coves won't be nearly so affected.
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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    I agree with,depeands on the lake,20mph on some of these rivers and lakes is very dangerous.
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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    Nice warm day, life vest, 12" v-hull-neat. Cold water,no one around and you are in high wind in an area no one has a clue, bad idea! In other words boat with the conditions. Boat smart.

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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    I went out in 25 mph winds on monday. It was very choppy and whitecapping but I did fine. I also have an offshore deep-vee fishing boat which helped significantly in the chop. I was lucky that the wind was pushing at the back end of the boat when I was putting it back on the trailer so I didn't have much trouble loading it back up.
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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    I would suggest that if you can, talk to some of the locals. Particularily if they live on the lake in question. Join a local boating club if there is one. Then you can learn from other's experience.
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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    I fall back on another old guy's advice when faced with windy conditions in Puget Sound that "when in doubt, don't go out."

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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    Which lake, is it in AZ? Havasu, Roosevelt, which one?

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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    I may be saying what some of the other boaters already said but figured I’d put my few cents in too. Don’t put your self in a situation your questionable about in the first place, that little guy in your head is trying to tell you something. Get enough experience boating so that your own conscience will tell you right from wrong, If you did go out in rough water I for one would not want to be in the boat with you being a newbe, one little mistake can cause a lot of regret. I saw a 26 foot top heavy cabin cruiser flip on it’s side in the Ohio river and had to fish the whole family out of the drink because of a wind around 20 MPH, it was blowing upstream and made some nasty white caps even though the river was down in a valley with a lot of protection from the wind, not much fun for any of us. The boat caught a good sized wave on the side and a gust of wind finished off the job. I mostly boat in the inter-coastal here in Florida now and still watch the weather, unless you enjoy a lot of hard work trying to dock or load a boat in the wind stay home.

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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    if you are out in that kind of wind and heavy water you just beat up your self and your equipment. then it's time to head for teh launch

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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    Get some time in calm water and get some experience before you get into high winds. retrieving the boat can be a real problem.

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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    Author Topic: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in? BKSinAZ Cadet Member # 66902 posted October 15, 2005 07:40 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------------20 ft fish and ski.Just curious about how bad 20 mph winds would be on a lake, espessially for a newbe. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Posts: 12 | From: Tucson | Registered: Oct 2005 | IP: Logged |
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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    All in all just understand that lakes,seas,rivers. Are all unforgiving what looks like just another chopy day could be youre last..It has very little to do with the size of the boat and a lot more to do with youre experience in how to deal with wave conditions..If youre local coast gaurd or boating club has a driving course take it..I am alive today only because my Dad someone who had 20 years on the lake experience took one of these courses from the Coast Guard..When I was about 10 My Dad and uncle and I went out fishing around Kellys Island on lake erie.. Good nice day of fishing no to low chop..Then we herd weather advisory on the radio..Winds were going to kick up to 26 knots..Pulled up gear and headed in..Waves went to 13-15 foot killers in no time we were in a 18foot cabin cruiser..In lake erie waves are not like in a ocean they are one right after another with very little room inbetween swells..We were 5 miles out it took 2 and 1/2 hours to get back..When youre sitting in a boat and every wave blocks out the sun you get humbled very quickly..There insnt always a second chance to get it right..Had my Dad not learn what to do in that situation and how to ride the waves I dont think I would be here today..

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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    You’re a lucky guy Solid. I used to live in Pennsylvania and heard a lot of horror stories about Lake Erie. I remember when some of the Coast Guardsman lost their lives on that lake because of a sudden storm. The lake has some shallow areas in it and in between the huge waves they were hitting bottom, they had duel outboards and it knocked them both off then capsized the boat, it was ironic though the people they were going to rescue made it in.Sorry if we scared you off BKS. Maybe he gave up boating after what we told him?

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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    Tough to answer that question. Depends on the size, depth, and shape of the lake in conjunction with the direction the wind is out of. Handling near the dock with be a neat challenge for you. It will give you an idea about your drift and windage. Try to stay out of reverse as it is difficult for most boats to steer due to their design and the paddlewheel effect of a prop in reverse creates a delayed reaction and in some cases the opposite of what you expect. Winds can have different effects on different lakes. Talk to the locals as they know which direction creates the most havoc. Know your safety spots. If you don't know if you can make her back you should know were to go. 20mph is a stiff breeze, but in most cases as long as it hasn't been blowing long you should be fine. A 20ft boat won't want to see much more than a 4ft sea. Try to take larger seas on the bow quarters. Not straight on if possible. Hull designs vary. Try to manage your engine trim to maintain an optimum bow attitude for your conditions.Just some thoughts.

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    Default Re: New at boating: Are 20 mph winds excessive to boat in?

    I too have heard horror stories about Lake Erie.....or any Great Lake for that matter eing as I live so close to them.I went on a week long walleye fishing trip on Erie about 10years ago. I remember on our last day we were out fishing in 6ft waves........it was a little scary when you were on top of a swell you could see the other boats around you, and when you would be at the bottom all you could see was water. Needless to say the Anti-seasick pills werent working for everyone that day. Later that night a bad thunderstorm rolled in, and there were reports of 15+ foot waves. Glad that we left that night , but I will remember it as the greatest lightning show I have EVER seen.
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