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    Default pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    So im looking at purchasing this 69 Glastron v150 with trailer and no outboard from a local fellow who got it in a trade a few years back.
    He lost the title but can get ahold of the last known titled owner.
    Its been in storage here in the high desert for awhile now and the floor seems solid, the transom seems solid and so does the hull.

    My main question is since it doesnt have a O/B on it what are my options with getting an O/B that fits those johnson controllers ?
    Can I get a different O/B and replace the controllers ?
    Can I get a different O/B and use the same controllers?

    See the purchase price on this boat and trailer is only $300 and thats perfect for this project I have in mind . Just dont want to be stuck with a boat thats gonna cost me $2000 to instal a O/B and or controllers.

    As an auto mechanic Im proficient with motors but this field is new hence the large amount of what may seem like silly questions.
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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    Wow.. that brings back memories.. I bought an identical boat.. I'd say $300 is a pretty good deal.. You're only half way there though. Watch the boats section of CraigsList for a used outboard. I believe the boat took up to a 90hp. You might want to check that though. See the aluminum capacity plate stamped inside. My Glastron had a 65HP and that was more than enough power for it. I wouldn't worry about the controls because more than likely the outboard you buy will have its own controls. You're probably looking to spend another $300 - $800 for a decent running outboard. Good Luck.

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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    That is in fact a V153 'Futura'. Great boat. But at that age you probly oughta plan on replacing the transom, stringers, etc. 'Less it was extremely well kept. Looks a lil rough around the edges but appears to be in origional condition. Should clean up nice. resizecgoa.jpgI like the virgin dashboard. Have the same steering wheel. That's a twin motor controller btw. 90hp max is correct. A pair of 45s perhaps ...?

    Check out ClassicGlastron.com "the years" section for more factory pics & information. Best of luck!
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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    The twin controlers were for a kicker as I see the rod holders and no tell tale holes on the transom ,except for the 4 in a rectangular shape on the starboard corner where a kicker bracket would go. The boat would be a gas pig with twin 45's and the associated drag.Stick with one motor 65hp and up.As noted when engines are sold the controls should be part of the pkg.Wheel stays with boat and controls go with motor.
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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    thanx for the info. Transom is in good shape from what Ive been told and he had it inspected at a local marine shop that said it was rated to a 90hp. Ij just ned to "drag" a wake boarder out of the water . lol Its me at 170lbs , my wife at 145lbs and my 9 year old son at 55 lbs along with the 60lb dog Think I might go for it.

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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    yes, I have been living on craigslist as of late and reading up on O/B building/tuning .

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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    poontoonb.jpgUhh, the pair of 45's thing was a joke ... Go with a single engine ...

    Imo, shy of a 140 Evinrude, the best utilitarian motor for this hull would be a Yammi 90 3cyl 2 stroke. Breathed on a lil bit. 'Bout 50lbs lighter'n my crossflow.

    Dream about gettin one & painting/decaling it to look like say a 60hp OMC. The cowls are quite similar.
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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    Just remember: the 90hp rating is for the boat in new condition at 1969. If the transom is substantially weaker it could break with a 90hp on it. It all depends on the condition. I had a '72 Glaspar tri-hull rated for 115hp. I got a couple hours of use with a 115hp engine before the transom broke. I should have stuck with a 90 or 100hp.

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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    That dual control box you have there may be worth a nice chunk of change on ebay. Cool boat!
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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    ezmobee - thanx , I go to see it person today. Im probably gonna buy it since its only $300 for the boat and trailer . Ill put it in my shop and do some resto on it. We finally just got all the snow melted on the High Desert Lakes so the water is still very frigid. More than Likely I will pull the controllers right away and post on ebay . Use that money towards a new/used controller and O/B .Got the boat bug bad

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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    A 3cylinder JohnnyRude '73 or newer would be a fantastic engine for that boat.
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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    For $300 you cant go wrong. Only big problem you can have is the TITLE, assume you will never get it. Is not that big of a problem though as the state only wants to see a piece of paper. 2 years ago, I could have mailed you one as I never get rid of titles before I abandon a boat, I just drill and sand the numbers off before I tie it off in the mangroves.
    Had the very same boat, ID. tag should be a piece of paper glued adjacent to the engine well, up underneath, right side. Mine had a 4 cyl, 40HP. MARINER. Worked well for me with just the wife and beer. Lots of good info on a GLASTRON / CARLSON collectors web site. Big claim to fame is a picture of LBJ driving one. You said its a project boat, do you mean to keep or sell it? I think 2K is reasonable to hang a decent motor, something in the range of 75 hp. should be more than sufficient. regards FRED

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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    Project = I plan to keep it till we outgrow it. It has to be a complete BUDGET minded boat as we are tight on funds and a $2k O/B is way to much. Somewhere between $200- $600 for an O/B and controller is what Im shooting for. I can do the work on the O/B if needed to bring it up to spec. Just needs to be able to drag myself and or the wife out of the water on a wakeboard .

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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    Well...... I bought it

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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    Nice boat!. That sure is a great price. See if you can find a 65 hp Merc for that baby. It is a solid engine and will push that Glastron nicely. Around here a 65 to 120 hp o/b running well will cost about 2K so if you can find one for under 1k, go for it!

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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    thanx. a local marine facility here in Bend oregon Central Lakes Marine , has a used 80's Force 90hp O/B and controller for $450 . Ive heard good and bad things about this motor. ANybody care to indulge me in some info?

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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    Quote Originally Posted by tunerauto View Post
    thanx. a local marine facility here in Bend oregon Central Lakes Marine , has a used 80's Force 90hp O/B and controller for $450 . Ive heard good and bad things about this motor. ANybody care to indulge me in some info?
    Don't buy it. Parts and service are hard to find and only getting worse. If you had one for free we'd certainly help you keep it going but I would definitely not advise you to buy one.
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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    Stay away from Force. May the Force not be with you. I have had a few buddies back in the late 80's that got Bayliners which teamed up with Force and they all had nothing but problems with those Engines. From 90 to 150 hp they all were bad. you are better off with a 1966 Chrysler than any Force!

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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    Good to know. Thanx. Also the Boat is registered as a 1972 Glastron V153 Futura , not a 69.

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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    May want to wait for the motor budget to improve a few hundred at least. The engine will be one of the most important things on your new baby. Going on the cheap side will not usually be a wise move. Nothing worse than re-powering with too small or too used of a motor. Boats are expensive to keep running well. I really like the one you picked.

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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    Quote Originally Posted by greenbush future View Post
    May want to wait for the motor budget to improve a few hundred at least. The engine will be one of the most important things on your new baby. Going on the cheap side will not usually be a wise move. Nothing worse than re-powering with too small or too used of a motor. Boats are expensive to keep running well. I really like the one you picked.
    Absolutely the most important !
    Thanx for the info , Ill pass.

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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    After towing it back from the storage unit it was at . When I parked out in front of my house , got out of the truck , I could hear what sounded like running water . The sound was coming from the bow of the boat. I suspect since it was left out without a cover , some rain water and maybe snow had found its way into the boat . I also noticed a fair amount of water coming out of the hole at the base of the boat underneath the transom . I suspect this is a drain for the hull of the boat and normally has a plug or bung . Can someone enlighten me on how to proceed ?

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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    Quote Originally Posted by tunerauto View Post
    After towing it back from the storage unit it was at . When I parked out in front of my house , got out of the truck , I could hear what sounded like running water . The sound was coming from the bow of the boat. I suspect since it was left out without a cover , some rain water and maybe snow had found its way into the boat . I also noticed a fair amount of water coming out of the hole at the base of the boat underneath the transom . I suspect this is a drain for the hull of the boat and normally has a plug or bung . Can someone enlighten me on how to proceed ?
    It's just water draining from the bilge. The bow wasn't kept high enough for the water to drain out. When you park, keep the plug out and keep the bow up as high as you can. You don't want water left in there otherwise it can ruin the deck or your floatation foam will suck it up like a sponge.

    I don't think anyone's mentioned this, but you should be aware the HP ratings changed around the mid 80's for most outboards. They used to measure HP at the powerhead. Now it's done at the prop. There's roughly a 15% difference. E.G. if you have a 100HP Johnson from 1975, the same motor would probably be marked as 85 HP on a 1990 motor. I had a 1969 Merc 65hp on the identical boat and I tubed and skied off it. It wasn't too bad in gas either.

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    Default Re: pre purchase advice on 69 Glastron V150 with johnson controllers & no O/B motor

    Agreed , when I picked it up from the storage facility the bow was definitely lower than the back . The plug was already out and I dont have a plug for it so its currently at the house unplugged. I need to get it lifted up and tilted as well as find something to help make sure the hole is clear of obstructions.
    Good info on the motor , thanx.

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