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    Is the definition of "no wake" a matter of opinion??? I was out on the lake with my wife when we decided to go to a water front bar and grill that we often visit.... Anyway as I'm idling Yes really idling.... Any slower would have needed paddles.. The owner comes out and starts yelling at me about being in a no wake zone asking if I knew what those blank blank bouies meant!! I tried to tell him I was at idle as he continued to yell?? I was the only boat there too!! I have no clue!?? As I was turning to leave and content to listen to his bantering and watching him try to take down my boat I'D yelling "I got you" I drifted into the shallows and scrapped up my prop pretty bad. I even started questioning myself maybe I wasn't paying attention about my speed I asked my wife and she said she was actually wondering why I was going so slow???? Well won't be going back thats for sure!

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    Default Re: No wake zone???

    A no wake zone is just that. Traveling at a speed at which your boat doesnt create a wave or wake of any size behind you. Speed differs from boat to boat depending on hull design and draft. If you look behid you and can see the path you just travelled outlined by a wave, your going to fast.

    Sounds like this guy may have been a bit of a blowhole tho.

    Also you are responsible for any damage that you create due to your wake. This includes other vessles, and property on shore. Just a FYI.

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    did your slow speed leave a wave/ripple?
    What ever it is...if your getting friend, family, or self time away from the office on the water....what ever the flotation device....it cant be half bad!

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    I think I can understand Splats definition,but going by that I wouldn't even be able to run the trolling motor on my little 14 footer!! You have to apply some bit of power just to steer the darn boat.

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    If it did leave anything it was a ripple as I approached the boat was running completely flat trim down at idle...serious one step above drifting... and when he was yelling at me I was actually in neutral! The only damage that in any could have been done was whe I was turning around and my prop dug in but that was to my property!! I'm always or think I'm always very careful actually have made comments about boaters flying past me when I'm just approaching the no wake zone. Even if he ha said hey you came in a little fast slow it down next time or something??? Sad I liked going there and had been there and approached the dock the exact same way??? Anyway just throwing it out there felt like I needed to vent!

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    And...... Even though it dinged up my prop I felt bad for digging it in the lake bed

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtdavis View Post
    Is the definition of "no wake" a matter of opinion??? I was out on the lake with my wife when we decided to go to a water front bar and grill that we often visit.... Anyway as I'm idling Yes really idling.... Any slower would have needed paddles.. The owner comes out and starts yelling at me about being in a no wake zone asking if I knew what those blank blank bouies meant!! I tried to tell him I was at idle as he continued to yell?? I was the only boat there too!! I have no clue!?? As I was turning to leave and content to listen to his bantering and watching him try to take down my boat I'D yelling "I got you" I drifted into the shallows and scrapped up my prop pretty bad. I even started questioning myself maybe I wasn't paying attention about my speed I asked my wife and she said she was actually wondering why I was going so slow???? Well won't be going back thats for sure!
    Maybe they won't let you back!

    "At idle" means that your throttle was back all the way. Like maybe 800 or 1000 rpm. If you were faster than that you weren't at idle and were creating a wake.

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    I tell people that it is the minimum speed that you can go and still maintain steerage. It will vary as was said above from boat to boat depending on hull design and size.

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    had any boats gone by and their wakes make it in about the time you were there ?....sounds like the guy may just be a blow hole....lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimS123 View Post
    Maybe they won't let you back!

    "At idle" means that your throttle was back all the way. Like maybe 800 or 1000 rpm. If you were faster than that you weren't at idle and were creating a wake.
    Here are the definitions

    ■Any vessel operating in a speed zone posted as "Idle Speed - No Wake" must operate at the minimum speed that allows the vessel to maintain headway and steerageway.
    ■Any vessel operating in a speed zone posted as "Slow Down - Minimum Wake" must operate fully off plane and completely settled in water.
    ■The vessel's wake must not be excessive nor create a hazard to other vessels.

    In other words, if your boat idles too high, it may still pull a wake. I had an FWC officer tell me I had to fix my boat because it wouldnt go any slower. I had to lower my idle from 800 to 600 to satisfy him. As said before, you should not pull any wake or any sign that you just went through an area.

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    It sounds to me like you did everything right. I can promise you this I would have shown him an fbi turn around with some huuuge rollers heading towards his docks if there were'nt any boats at. Lol. Then my wife would have been chewing my but all the way home.. lol.

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    Wow JimS do you know the guy I'm talking about or something? What up with the comment????? I'm trying to do two thing here: one is vent a little frustration because I was really looking forward to some southwestern egg rolls they serve and two learn what I may have done wrong.... I'm not a reckless boater. I'm a firefighter that has had to fish people out of the very same lake I was in. And btw my boat idles at 850 rpm I am very aware if what at idle means, as I was only in forward gear at idle so I could steer!

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    LOL at Ryan!!!!!! I thought the same thing and when i told my wife said she would have chewed my out!!!!!! Lol

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    sound like the guy thinks "no wake" means "no boat" Zone
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    Thanks mnypitboat.... That helps to know.... Idk if I can drop my idle anymore and be able to maintain steerage but I can give it a try to avoid future problems!

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    should have told him to suck it
    Wrap it up b!

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    Default Re: No wake zone???

    my boat idles at 850 rpm I am very aware if what at idle means
    If you were in the 1994 3.0L that's in your profile, factory Mercruiser idle spec is 650-700 RPM.

    My boat idles at 650 RPM doing 2.5 MPH with no wake, and makes a noticeable wake at 900 RPM doing 6 MPH.
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    GT I would not worry about it... if you were going slow the dude is an a-hole.
    I have met plenty of then in the water. I will always admit my guilt but some dudes are just wanna be hall monitor types. F'em.
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    Default Re: No wake zone???

    no wake zone.

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    Default Re: No wake zone???

    I'm not saying this was you, but often it seems operators think "no wake" means "not planing" Lots of times I've seen boats go thru a no wake zone with their boats going slow, but plowing and making a huge wake. BTW, idling means the lowest possible throttle setting (just in gear, no extra throttle). Anything above that is not idling, but is above idle. Sounds like you might have been above idle, but were not planing. Issue is whether you were throwing a wake or not. It doesn't take much more than idle to make a wake. We're not talking a ripple here, throwing a stone in water makes a ripple... we're talking about an appreciable rolling wave caused by the movement of your boat.

    Yes, it could also be that the person thought "no wake" meant "no boat"... but if they were in a boat up establishment (?) I doubt that.

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    I understand what the factory specs are for my boat, and I'm saying mine idles at 850 on the boats tach. Much less it shakes the boat to pieces it shakes the boat to pieces and dies. And yes I have had the motor and carbs tuned. Maybe the 16 year old tach is off a bit but MY boat that I have out every week idles at 850 (according to the tach) and barely moves at 900 rpm..... Geeze! Lol!!!! Btw not getting mad or pissy just firing back.

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    Default Re: No wake zone???

    This quote was taken from the boaters safety course plain and simple...


    "Slow Speed/No Wake": The speed at which a motorized vessel moves through the water and is able to maintain minimum headway in relation to a vessel or structure being passed and produces the minimum wake possible.

    sounds like you were doing it rite

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    wow, got some awfully touchy people on here don't we. First of all, no wake doesn't mean you can't make a wave or a ripple from your movements, the only way to do that on some boats is to be stopped. Read the post directly above this one. It says minimal.....meaning as little as possible, which to me is just putting the boat in gear and nothing more. To quote someone's factory specs sounds like something a 10 year old would do.....to know (and quote) how fast your boat goes at 650rpm and 900 rpm is something my mom would do. Ease up guys....sounds like the bar owner was ticked off that his place was empty and took it out on the first guy who came around....which seems kind of backwards considering most bars are in business to ATTRACT CUSTOMERS....not scream at them and cause them to leave....lol

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    Thank you!! Lol I guess us seaman apprentices have to stick together lol. And my speedo doesn't register below 15mph guess I need to break out the gps next time lol....But in all seriousness no harm no foul and thanks everybody for the useful info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BF View Post
    I'm not saying this was you, but often it seems operators think "no wake" means "not planing" Lots of times I've seen boats go thru a no wake zone with their boats going slow, but plowing and making a huge wake. BTW, idling means the lowest possible throttle setting (just in gear, no extra throttle). Anything above that is not idling, but is above idle. Sounds like you might have been above idle, but were not planing. Issue is whether you were throwing a wake or not. It doesn't take much more than idle to make a wake. We're not talking a ripple here, throwing a stone in water makes a ripple... we're talking about an appreciable rolling wave caused by the movement of your boat.

    Yes, it could also be that the person thought "no wake" meant "no boat"... but if they were in a boat up establishment (?) I doubt that.
    I'm hoping we are all know what "no wake" vs "not planing"... With I/Os you leave less of a wake at plane then you do in between idle and plane.
    I'm just saying there folks out there looking to yell at someone like they own the water.

    Like rickryder posted... "minimum wake possible". I dont see what the issue is if someone is leaving a 3" ripple which would not even show up on a windy day. Not on purpose...
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