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    Default How do you stop water from filling up your boat cover?

    I have a 1990 Regal 233 Xl Ambassador Cabin Cruiser. I store it outside and cover it completely with a good water proof boat cover. The cover goes around the 2' tall pulpit / bow rails in the front and over the rear deck rails. I used 2 inflatable exercise balls in the front to form a inverted Vee and I used an adjustable pole in the rear deck. Proberm is, is when the cover gets wet it forms pockets and when it rains hard or snows it forms very deep pockets. I had to go out several times last winter and bucket the snow and water off. I was thinking this year to use 1/4" plywood over the bow rails and stick 2x4's underneath for support and the same for rear deck, this way the cover would not dip. So far, water has not entered the boat, the cover is very flexible and can hold large pockets of water. I strap the cover with 6 adjustable straps on each side, 2 on the bow and 2 on the transom, and adjust the frequently.

    Any suggestion on what to do??????????
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    Default Re: How do you stop water from filling up your boat cover?

    Keep it in a barn, or shrink wrap it, or use more internal supports.
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    Default Re: How do you stop water from filling up your boat cover?

    IMO best thing to do is built a simple 2x4 ridge pole with supports that rest on the floor of the boat running full length. Couple things that are important, make sure the base of the support poles have a piece of plywood (roughly 8x8 or larger) screwed to the bottom to distribute the weight (a piece of carpet under the ply is a good idea as well) and the peak or height of the ridge pole needs to be higher than the windshield and provide a good pitch side to side to shed the snow.

    To hold the ridge pole in place use some light weight rope or fiberglass strapping (like what's used when they shrink wrap a boat) and tie the pole side to side looping over and around the pole so it doesn't slip... Secure the cover nice and tight and you'll be good to go.. Kinda hard to explain, but here's a link showing some pics of a boat I framed before shrink wrapping. Not the best pics, but hopefully between the pics and my description you can make heads or tails of it.. http://www.millerboatworks.com/?110560000000

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    Default Re: How do you stop water from filling up your boat cover?

    I used 4" PVC drain pipe with 2 90* elbows and built a center ridge support to go under the cover for my cruiser. $15 at a home improvement store, Problem solved.

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    Default Re: How do you stop water from filling up your boat cover?

    Here is what I used. Some 3/4" PVC and some elbows


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    Default Re: How do you stop water from filling up your boat cover?

    Quote Originally Posted by Last Mohican View Post
    I used 4" PVC drain pipe with 2 90* elbows and built a center ridge support to go under the cover for my cruiser. $15 at a home improvement store, Problem solved.
    I did the same thing and added cheap blue poly tarp over the top of the cover, secured with bungies. The tarp stretches a bit tighter & provides a slick surface.

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    Default Re: How do you stop water from filling up your boat cover?

    They were all great ideals, but with a ridge beam 2x4 at the bow, the length from pulpit bow rail to the top of the windshield is 16' horizontal. I would need to get the 2x4 angled up to get to the height of the window. On that angle towards the window, what does the end of the beam rest on. It just can't be suspended in the air, because the weight of water or snow would pull it down. I understand about 2x4 post on wide platforms for balance, but not on how to continuie the V effect towards the window. However, I think I can do the PVC on the deck plat form.
    Here's a picture of the boat so that you guy's can get a better understanding.


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    Default How do you pitch your boat cover to keep water from pooling

    I had started this tread on the Restoration page, I had some good ideas but need more.

    I have a 1990 Regal 233 Xl Ambassador Cabin Cruiser. I store it outside and cover it completely with a good water proof boat cover. The cover goes around the 2' tall pulpit / bow rails in the front and over the rear deck rails. I used 2 inflatable exercise balls in the front to form a inverted Vee and I used an adjustable pole in the rear deck. Problem is, is when the cover gets wet it forms pockets and when it rains hard or snows it forms very deep pockets. I had to go out several times last winter and bucket the snow and water off. I was thinking this year to use 1/4" plywood over the bow rails and stick 2x4's underneath for support and the same for rear deck, this way the cover would not dip. Last year water did not entered the boat, the cover is very flexible and can hold large pockets of water. I strap the cover with 6 adjustable straps on each side, 2on the bow and 2 on the transom, and adjust them frequently.

    From the pulpit to the windshield is about 16 lf, the boat is 9.5 ft wide, almost 24.5 ft in total length.

    Any suggestion on what to do??????????



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    Default Re: How do you pitch your boat cover to keep water from pooling

    Block the jockey wheel up off the ground so the water slopes off to the rear?

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    Default Re: How do you pitch your boat cover to keep water from pooling

    go to a shop that sells shrink wrap....and ask for post ends.....

    kinda a flower looking thingy that attaches to the top of a 2x4......stick the 2x4 under the tarp and cut to length
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    Default Re: How do you pitch your boat cover to keep water from pooling

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    Default Re: How do you pitch your boat cover to keep water from pooling

    I like the ideal on how the shrink wrap company used the 2x4 post and string method, but I am not using shrink wrap, I'm using a full wrap around boat cover.
    I live in the midwest, not in a populated area so my resources are scarce.

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    Default Re: How do you pitch your boat cover to keep water from pooling

    the same method works for your boat cover...... Last I checked, UPS delivers to the midwest also..... If you want to cheap out on it use some bucket lids. Cut a few slots and staple them to the 2x4's.... the strapping they use is important... flat to staple and doesn't stretch

    You could use rope and ratchet straps to tension it but it's more of a pain
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    Default Re: How do you pitch your boat cover to keep water from pooling

    2x4 = yuck.

    Get some PVC piping. Possibilities are endless.
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    Default Re: How do you stop water from filling up your boat cover?

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Be Cool View Post
    They were all great ideals, but with a ridge beam 2x4 at the bow, the length from pulpit bow rail to the top of the windshield is 16' horizontal. I would need to get the 2x4 angled up to get to the height of the window. On that angle towards the window, what does the end of the beam rest on. It just can't be suspended in the air, because the weight of water or snow would pull it down. I understand about 2x4 post on wide platforms for balance, but not on how to continuie the V effect towards the window. However, I think I can do the PVC on the deck plat form.
    Here's a picture of the boat so that you guy's can get a better understanding.

    A good skyhook otta hold that 2x4 up lol
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    Default Re: How do you pitch your boat cover to keep water from pooling

    For covering my 33' Chris Craft Coho I took on ideas used in shrink wrapping but I use a canvas...

    Put a couple 2x4's on end to act as a peak where you suspect your cover will sag. Run a rope that won't stretch much (I used the yellow poly-something stuff) from the bow rail, up your 2x4s, and back down to the swim platform or sterndrive, or whatever you have to tie to that's in the center. Run ropes either straight across the gunwhales or cross them on top of the 2x4's. Then add some padding to the tops of the 2x4s...my work throws out tons of open cell foam. Then put your cover on.

    You'll have peaks but not any sharp points and the rope will help support the peaks of the tarp (along with keeping the 2x4s in place). It will also keep the cover from sagging between the peak and your gunwhales or transom.
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    Default Re: How do you pitch your boat cover to keep water from pooling

    To me, it just looks like you need a couple of saw horses that are taller than your bow rail set end toend down the center of your bow to slope the water off there. Everything else looks like it should have a pretty good slope if you pull your cover tight enough.
    I consider overkill a job well done... plus a little extra.

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    Default Re: How do you pitch your boat cover to keep water from pooling

    Last Winter, I had the boat cover on pretty tight. Through out the Winter season, I kept tightning the straps, but no matter how tight the straps or cover got water or snow would pool under heavy conditions. To make matters worse, when it got real cold, the accumulation would turn to ice. It was a real bad in the _____, to climb a ladder and bucket the water or shovel the snow off.

    Now, I made sure the adjustable pole was high enough to form a pitch and that the bow aree was high enough with the inflatable balls. I do believe that having some sort of ridge beam and truss system like a house would help. I'm trying the best avenue to go. I like the PVC ridge method but wondering if the rope woul benefit as the truss system.

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    Default Re: How do you pitch your boat cover to keep water from pooling

    On my 20' sea ray cuddy I had a strap going from the bow to the stern. I used a length of 3/4" pvc with a "t" on the to that the strap went through and had it about mid length from the windshield to the stern. It worked great.

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    Default Re: How do you pitch your boat cover to keep water from pooling

    I used ratchet straps to pull cover on real tite worked great

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    Default Re: How do you pitch your boat cover to keep water from pooling

    This is why I don't use a boat cover and use a heavy duty tarp. The tarp makes snow slide off better, even if its a wet snow, usually all you have to do is shake it a little and the snow will come right off. The boat covers absorb some moisure and like you said makes it sag. Plastic tarps don't expand and don't absorb water. There also not as much of a pain in the butt to install, snap and all that stuff!I would buy a plastic tarp and put it over the boat cover or just use the tarp by its self. I use bungees to hold the tarp tight all the way down to the trailer. And if you buy a tarp , buy the heavy duty silver and brown one from lowes. Best I have found, going on my third season with this one.

    If you decide to use your cover, try spraying it with a water repellant.

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    Default Re: How do you pitch your boat cover to keep water from pooling

    A Heavy Duty plastic tarp over the Boat Cover seems to be a good ideal. Criscraft254, your right, the boat cover does absorb some moisture to allow it to dip. I'm now thinking of 2 saw horses at the bow with a 2x4 from the pulpit to the bottom of the windshield.
    As for the bridge area, I still like the ideal of using 3/4" pvc lformed in a bow, like they do on greenhouse roofs.

    if I tie string to resemble ribs and a use the 2x4 as the spine. My concern now is the weight of ice, water or snow pulling on the bow rails. Also, last winter, water pooled about 40 gallons of water. I was lucky the cover didn't rip.

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    Default Re: How do you pitch your boat cover to keep water from pooling

    I go out and clear the snow or ice off of my cover after every snowfall...that will help tremendously to extend the protection and life of your cover. I don't want all of that extra weight transfered to my trailer bunks via the hull either. This is the tool to use to remove the snow...the cheesy handle will break within 30 seconds of use, so , everyone that I know uses the head piece with a wooden broom stick . These work great once you have replaced the handle. It got me through a couple of 24" snow storms last year.


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    I tried PMing this poster, no avail. Anybody know or see what the pvc is held to on the sides? Is it just the pressure of the bent pvc or are they attached to something?



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    Here is what I used. Some 3/4" PVC and some elbows


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    Default Re: How do you stop water from filling up your boat cover?

    he has T's on the ends with short sections of pvc sticking out fore and aft.... They are just setting there.
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