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    Default Getting a title for a old boat that was given to me.

    Hello all, I recently bought a motor and outdrive from a guy that was on a 20' 77 sleekcraft speedboat. He gave me the boat and trailer with it cause he had no title for it.He said he bought it at a state auction and they never sent him the title. Is there any way I can get this boat titled? ITs still a solid boat just needs restored in some areas. I'm from ohio and I've tried to get a title for another boat that someone gave me once before and they said the last person with title has to file for lost title.Any help would be appreciated.Can any of you guys from other states get titles for boats if they didn't have one when you got it? Thanks again for any help.

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    took and old jon boat once that the title for had been long lost and applyed for a home made boat title it worked dunno if that would work in your case but the only proof they have of the boat ever havin a title is the HIN on the top right of the transome when i did the transome on my cobia i ended up removing the HIN and had to apply for a new HIN and title using the home made boat angle that could be something to think about in your caseassuming you aquired it legit i don't see any harm in cheating the system

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    Default Re: Getting a title for a old boat that was given to me.

    Just get any numbers you can off of what you have, and go to the DMV with them..they run a search, and will set you up with what you need. Don't forget the checkbook...

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    He said he bought it at a state auction and they never sent him the title. Probably because they didn't have one. Confiscated property at state auctions rarely have titles but the buyer is given paperwork that will assist in getting a title. You need at least a bill of sale from the seller showing the hull number and you paid $1.00 for the boat.Contact a lawyer and find out what the law is for your state because it varies from state to state.

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    Default Re: Getting a title for a old boat that was given to me.

    Last summer I gave my neighbor a boat that I acquired from a friend for helping him swap trailers and motors around. Anyway the transferable registration was long gone. because I owned it for over a year, all I had to do was fill out a form that told where I got the boat and why the registration was gone. My neighbor received a non-transferable registration and should receive a transferable one soon if it does not come up as being stolen or having a lien against it.
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    Default Re: Getting a title for a old boat that was given to me.

    You should contact the DMV or DNR or whoever registers or titles boats in your state and ask them how to obtain a title and registration. Same for the trailer.Consider that a boat given or sold to you without documentation may be have been stolen at some point.
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    Broadway Title Companywww.broadwaytitle.com800-464-3222Have you cc ready, it ain't cheap.For boats you must call for a quote.Doubt a 1977 boat would be worth it.BTW here is info from their website:Also Note: STOLEN, SALVAGE AND ANY VEHICLES WITH A LIEN CANNOT BE HANDLED THROUGH US. We will not take any part in these type of fraudulent transactions. You MUST check with your state to see if vehicle is already titled or if any loans are recorded.Due to the Added Expenses from doing business with the following states, please add an additional $75.00 to the quote. We apologize for any inconvenience. ARKANSAS, DELAWARE, KANSAS, KENTUCKY, OHIO, NORTH CAROLINA, IOWA, MINNESOTA, NEW JERSEY, WISCONSIN, WASHINGTON, NEBRASKA
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    Default Re: Getting a title for a old boat that was given to me.

    Are you sure that's not a pre '70 boat and didn't come with a HIN ?

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    Default Re: Getting a title for a old boat that was given to me.

    Yes it has a hin number on the back, its a 12 digit number scribed in the fiberglass and the last two numbers are 77 so I figured thats the year on it since my other boats last two numbers are same as year on hin plate.Would I be able to go and file for a lost title? would they know ?The guy said he had it for 6 years.Thanks for helping me out everyone.

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    from Rayjay
    Are you sure that's not a pre '70 boat and didn't come with a HIN ?
    He said... are you sure it's not a pre '70 boat and THERE IS NO HIN.
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    I'm glad somebody around here understands me

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    He said... are you sure it's not a pre '70 boat and THERE IS NO HIN
    hint hintand if it DOES have a HIN, i can buy gelcoat at the westamrine for 12 dollars that will fill in and cover any sratch, hole, HIN, crack, ETC.....

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    Be thankful it is the boat and not the trailer! The trailer I recieved had the plate stolen off it and lost title. The Vin number had long since faded from the sun and water.Suprisingly the DMV(King county, washington) cannot run a name search to find the previous owner, don't ask me?!In order to re-register, you need to take the boat off the trailer, have the trailer wieghed, bring it down to the state patrol, have it inspected and assigned a new VIN, then appply for title and registration.

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    Sorry I didn't catch that about the pre 70 boat. . We have no trouble here registering trailers here in gallia county. Just have them weighed and they make one for you at the dmv.I had a guy tell me he had some old junk boats with good titles, and if I took my manufacturing names off my boat I could just take one of his titles and remove hin plate from his boat and put it on mine as long as the length of boat is close. Would this be possible?

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    possible....yes. legal.....I doubt it. would I do it.....I have the right to remain silent,anything I say can and will be used against me in a court of law...
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    There is another HIN in the boat other than the one on the transom. It has to be in an inconspicuous but accesible place. USCG regs.The local authorities may or may not know this, or may or may not care, but you should be aware of this before messing around with the numbers.Having a piece of property with altered or missing I,D, numbers can have serious consequences.

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    I agree with GaCracker on this one. It could really bite you in the butt. I lost a truck in a divorce just because I left the title blank when I bought it. My Ex just filled in her name and sold it. Nothing I could do about it. Now whenever I buy or sell, everything is filled out.
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    Default Re: Getting a title for a old boat that was given to me.

    Just curious why anyone would willingly commit a felony over a 20' 1977 boat.
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    Default Re: Getting a title for a old boat that was given to me.

    Thought i would jump in here. I sure like the idea of using another title and hull number. Not really right but much less of a hassel. Someti mes it is impossible to work in the system. Anyone ever had the authoritie having juristiction check the hull number on there boat?? regards fred.

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    Default Re: Getting a title for a old boat that was given to me.

    If you bother to read the above posts, I listed one of several legal ways to obtain a title.It's not impossible to "work the system", you just have to expend a little effort.If the boat was ever titled, there is a record of it somewhere that can be accessed, and the owner (the guy with the title is the owner, regardless of posession or bills of sale) can be determined.With the name of the owner and even an old address there whereabouts can be discovered easily. Of course, no one really wants to find out who the owner is, they just want someone else's property.What this really boils down to is :"I have a boat and trailer that never belonged to me that I don't have a title to for whatever reason and I really don't want to find the real owner as he will more than likely want his property back"Ponder this- if your boat was to come up missing for whatever reason, would you want someone down the line who obtained it by whatever means to be able to obtain a title for it in their name? Don't think so.
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    Default Re: Getting a title for a old boat that was given to me.

    Thanks for the help everyone,especially you bomar 76.I'm gonna go the route you told me.The man who owned this boat with the title is dead. Thats why it was sold at a state auction in tennesee,It was Loretta Lynn's manager.

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    Default Re: Getting a title for a old boat that was given to me.

    some times the legal way is just a pain i dunno what hoops they make you jump trough to get a title if the title holder is dead and from another state you might be SOL if you wanna go by the book some times it sounds like you guys in other states have such a hard time with that stuff here in florida i guess they are more layed back like when i got my trailer registerd all i had to do was say hey i have a trailer and they gave me a tag

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    Default Re: Getting a title for a old boat that was given to me.

    Great topic!!! I stopped by the forum to ask this SAME question!!! I have an aluminum 12-footer up at my camp in Maine, previous owner of the boat has been dead for years. I don't even know what his name was, as he was only known by his nickname (kind of like us on this forum)!!! I'd like to drag it down here to West Virginia to use on the Potomac, but hate to go through all that effort if I won't be able to obtain a title..... When I went to WV DMV to title and register my cars, the ladies working there were a little LESS than pleasant.... I don't get the feeling that they'd be much help if I showed up there with a boat and NO paperwork.... My best course of action might be to simply find another 12-footer (with paperwork) locally... Yes, No????

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    You said "state" auction and I interpreted that to mean you bought it from a state. I think what you meant was "estate" auction. In Tennessee, registration of a boat is necessary with Tennessee Wildlife Resource Agency, but they don't issue title, only numbers and Owners Certificate wallet card.Also in Tennessee, registration of a boat trailer is not required, hence no title. Travel in adjoining states without a tag on it is legal under certain bordering states' reciprocal agreements.

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    Boatbuoy Thanks a million,I contacted the tennessee wildlife resource agency and told them what had happened and they asked me to send them the hull number and the registration number on the boat and they checked it out and said all was good and they are sending me a registration and a cover letter for the boat so I can get a title now.I also wanna thank everyone else for trying to help me out with this mess.

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