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    Petty Officer 1st Class RobbyA's Avatar
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    I have finally found my project! I had started off really wanting a Starcraft, but they are few and far between here.
    I wanted to restore a boat because it seems to be an exciting adventure to me, and I need something to do because I quit smoking. Between the wife, kids, family, and friends, I was never cut any slack about my smoking.
    So I set out to quit and find out really how much quitting smoking pays (besides health reasons).
    I am going to keep track of money spent on this restore vs. money saved by not smoking. I will use this forum somewhat as an accountability to myself to stay smoke free, plus if I start back, the deal with the wife is the boat gets sold. Fair enough. On average I was paying $6.00 a pack per day so I will use that as my base for savings, although the last pack I bought ran me $7.57.

    Smoke free Day 13
    Money Saved- $78.00

    Project Boat- $300.00
    Total Savings so far- ($222.00)
    I know I am in the red as of right now, but I don't think it will take long to be in the black. I will keep track of every penny spent to see where I am at when we splash this thing.

    So without further ado, here she is!
    1969 Hydroswift Riviera Hardtop o/b 18ft

    She has not seen water since 1983, that was the last time she was registered. The boat came with no motor, has all the original gauges, missing a couple of windshield pieces. It is an all fiberglass construction in and out, so I don't know about stringers. It does have a wood transom that seems solid, but it has set out for years and is going to get replaced no matter what. I could use and would like any knowledge or tips on this boat if you have any.







    Your boat may be new, but I'm not making payments every time I go to the lake!
    69' Hydroswift Hardtop 18' o/b
    My restoration thread:
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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    Nice project, and more importantly, good luck on quitting. I use to light up when I was stressed...then work got bad and I got pneumonia pretty bad. Having a real pain in your lungs changes your perspective!

    Dave

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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    That is sweet! Up here in the North - we don't need tops because 90 is a HOT day - but down South that hardtop is cool....

    Good luck with the cigs - a worthy adventure -
    Clark
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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    GREAT decesion! One thing now is that any money you spend, you'll have something to show for it. What do you have to show for that $7.57 pack now? Been 5 years for me.

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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    Great incentive to stop smoking. This Saturday will be 15 weeks for me. My incentive was the news from my wife that she is going to be giving a baby boy. After you add up all the money you spent on it (not to mention the tax increases to come), it definately makes you look at it as what a waste of money it was. Good luck on both and when one makes you wish you had the other - don't give in.
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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    Best of luck man, 30 year dipper, 13 weeks out...
    Work like a Captain but play like a Pirate


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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    It's official, the boat is home! After a little title scare, we are in the clear.
    I started prodding around on it a bit more and disassembling some of the trim pieces. I confirmed the transom is starting to rot. Since the floor is solid fiberglass and part of the cap, I will not know about the stringers until I pull the cap.
    I do have a question or two. There is no bilge area. I don't know if it is because of the solid fiberglass floor or just normal for this design. The drain plug is about a foot above the bottom of the V in the hull. Also approximately how heavy might this cap be?







    Day 14 no smoking - $84.00 saved
    Project Total to date (Including boat) - $381.91
    Had to buy trailer lights and wire to make it legal to get home.
    Savings so far (297.91) in the hole
    Your boat may be new, but I'm not making payments every time I go to the lake!
    69' Hydroswift Hardtop 18' o/b
    My restoration thread:
    http://forums.iboats.com/showthread....30#post2848330
    89' Cajun Espirit 185 Travis edition
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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    I so just went and used your idea......made a deal with the devil (aka my wife) At least I will have some more money to put into our boat!!

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    Btw nice boat, have always wanted a hardtop but they are very hard to come by around here.

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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    Quote Originally Posted by troutbum1982 View Post
    I so just went and used your idea......made a deal with the devil (aka my wife) At least I will have some more money to put into our boat!!
    LOL, I was amazed how easy the deal was made!
    Your boat may be new, but I'm not making payments every time I go to the lake!
    69' Hydroswift Hardtop 18' o/b
    My restoration thread:
    http://forums.iboats.com/showthread....30#post2848330
    89' Cajun Espirit 185 Travis edition
    88' Johnson GT 150

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbyA View Post
    LOL, I was amazed how easy the deal was made!
    Same here.....she didnt even blink an eye

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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    Got the rubrail rivets drilled out today and started separating the transom in order to pull the top half off. Got to build a lift system to separate the two halves, HD here I come.



    Day 15 no smoking - $90.00 saved
    Project Total to date (Including boat) - $381.91
    Savings so far (291.91) in the hole
    Your boat may be new, but I'm not making payments every time I go to the lake!
    69' Hydroswift Hardtop 18' o/b
    My restoration thread:
    http://forums.iboats.com/showthread....30#post2848330
    89' Cajun Espirit 185 Travis edition
    88' Johnson GT 150

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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    14 days of straight H-E-double hockey sticks weather, 100+ degree days, and I have accomplished nothing on the boat. I did manage to make a HD run and pick up some supplies to build my lift to separate the halves and remove the hull from the trailer. I also picked up a respirator and a few other safety items. Now if I could only get the temps in the 90's so I can build my lift and make progress. Next 7 days look bleak on the forecast.........
    Anyway,
    Day 21 no smoking - $126.00 saved
    Project total to date ( including boat ) - $546.87
    Savings so far ($420.87) in the hole.

    As long as I don't buy anything and sit and wait for the weather to cool some at least my savings will increase!
    Your boat may be new, but I'm not making payments every time I go to the lake!
    69' Hydroswift Hardtop 18' o/b
    My restoration thread:
    http://forums.iboats.com/showthread....30#post2848330
    89' Cajun Espirit 185 Travis edition
    88' Johnson GT 150

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkins50 View Post
    Great incentive to stop smoking. This Saturday will be 15 weeks for me. My incentive was the news from my wife that she is going to be giving a baby boy. After you add up all the money you spent on it (not to mention the tax increases to come), it definately makes you look at it as what a waste of money it was. Good luck on both and when one makes you wish you had the other - don't give in.
    Congrats on the Boy! Same incentive I used to stop dippin' snuff. That was over 16 years ago. I paid my piggie bank every day. After a year or so, I blew the cash on something, I don't remember what.

    Robby, good looking boat! I'm just south of you and can't seem to make any progress on my Skeeter due to the heat. I'm just learning resin and am trying to figure out how to work it in this heat.
    Me: "If they built this boat right, we wouldn't have to be doing all this extra work!" My son: "Dad, if they had, we wouldn't have this boat right now."

    1986 Skeeter Starfire 90 Build
    http://forums.iboats.com/boat-restoration-building-hull-repair/1986-skeeter-starfire-90-resto-413145.html

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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    Quote Originally Posted by JAFO1 View Post
    Congrats on the Boy! Same incentive I used to stop dippin' snuff. That was over 16 years ago. I paid my piggie bank every day. After a year or so, I blew the cash on something, I don't remember what.

    Robby, good looking boat! I'm just south of you and can't seem to make any progress on my Skeeter due to the heat. I'm just learning resin and am trying to figure out how to work it in this heat.
    Once you learn the resin, hop on up north a bit and teach me!!!!

    I haven't got to the learning phase yet.
    Your boat may be new, but I'm not making payments every time I go to the lake!
    69' Hydroswift Hardtop 18' o/b
    My restoration thread:
    http://forums.iboats.com/showthread....30#post2848330
    89' Cajun Espirit 185 Travis edition
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobbyA View Post
    Once you learn the resin, hop on up north a bit and teach me!!!!

    I haven't got to the learning phase yet.
    Hmmm??? Road Trip! You're on!
    Me: "If they built this boat right, we wouldn't have to be doing all this extra work!" My son: "Dad, if they had, we wouldn't have this boat right now."

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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    Congrats on the deal! Ex-smoker myself.

    The drain plug is a foot above the V on the outside of the stern, is it a foot above the deck in the inside of the boat, too? I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least a center stringer up the keel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petermarcus View Post
    Congrats on the deal! Ex-smoker myself.

    The drain plug is a foot above the V on the outside of the stern, is it a foot above the deck in the inside of the boat, too? I'd be surprised if there wasn't at least a center stringer up the keel.
    The Drain plug is level with the sub-floor on the boat. I thought everything might be alright under the subfloor, but after this intense heat, I raised the bow in the air another foot and water came out of the holes where the seats were screwed down.
    I wondered about the center stringer myself. Its going to be a surprise what I find.

    Whoever voted this 5 stars, Thank you!!!! It at least makes me feel like this is being read.
    Your boat may be new, but I'm not making payments every time I go to the lake!
    69' Hydroswift Hardtop 18' o/b
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    89' Cajun Espirit 185 Travis edition
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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    RobbyA

    As a smoker I admire your will power and putting your project above the ciggs

    Had to vote it 5 stars for that reason alone, plus I am loving the work you are doing

    take care

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    Quote Originally Posted by troutbum1982 View Post
    I so just went and used your idea......made a deal with the devil (aka my wife) At least I will have some more money to put into our boat!!
    Quote Originally Posted by RobbyA View Post
    LOL, I was amazed how easy the deal was made!
    Quote Originally Posted by troutbum1982 View Post
    Same here.....she didnt even blink an eye
    Did it ever dawn on you gents that it's not real pleasant to kiss an ashtray?

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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    Here in NY its 10 bucks a pack!
    Clark
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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    Why didn't I do that? Oh yeah. I'm weak. My boat woulda been finished two years ago if I had quit smoking!
    Robert in Richmond, VA
    Disabled American vet too poor to be a boat owner but I have one anyway

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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    Robby,

    If I correctly interpret one of your pics, you are chain sawing the rotten core out of your transom. If you can preserve the inner skin from saw damage, you might consider a NIDA pourable ceramic transom core job. It's a little expensive, $132.00/5 gal.+hazmat, but super easy to do. It is remarkably strong. Goggle for their website. I did a 15 foot skiff that route and am really glad I did. No more wood core to worry about.



    FWIW
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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    Day 30 not a smoke, not that I haven't craved one every now and then. Weather is still way too darn hot to do anything. My idle hands are itching to dig into fiberglass and get to itching. Here are some pics on the bilge or lack there of. I am trying to plan everything out and am kind of stumped on the bilge.











    The floor is also glued to the subfloor in places and I want to keep the upper shell in one piece if I can. I think it's definitely going to take a little ingenuity to get the two separated and in one piece.

    Anyway,
    Day 30 no smoking - $180.00 saved
    Project total to date ( including boat ) - $546.87
    Savings so far ($366.87) in the hole
    Your boat may be new, but I'm not making payments every time I go to the lake!
    69' Hydroswift Hardtop 18' o/b
    My restoration thread:
    http://forums.iboats.com/showthread....30#post2848330
    89' Cajun Espirit 185 Travis edition
    88' Johnson GT 150

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    Default Re: No Smoking!!! 1969 Hydroswift Restore

    Thats why I cut my deck off, left the cap in place.
    Getting it all off in one peice isn't always possible with a molded inner liner.
    Sometimes its easier to cut the rear part of the cap/gunnels off that way you can get at the rear transom surface.

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